ratmogit 16 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 (edited) apperantely the welsh ruled great britain and were pushed to the north and west by invading german/french mix . i say welsh but celt would be more appropiate . all the celtic nations have theyre own lanuages that have close similarities.what are your thoughts Edited May 16, 2009 by ratmogit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhitehunter 47 Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 yer i heard that aswell, i think the welsh language derives from another language like gaelic, some ancient celtic language i spose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hyperion Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 yes very true! the "celts" (brittons is a better term) modern welsh scottish and cornish were pushed out by the saxons! cheers hyperion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 mae yn ofnadwy o wir, roedd y iaeth cymraeg yn cale ei siarad trwy prydain i gyd ond roedd rhaid y anglais troi e mewn i wlad saesneg! i can speak fluent welsh and i study welsh history and yes it is very true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FENS FEVER 147 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 oliver cromwell was the man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ratmogit 16 Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen WE RULED ONCE AND STILL DO IN THE RUGBY!!! THATS WHAT YOU NEED IN THE ENGLISH TEAM .........SOME SUPERIOR WELSH BLOOD IN THE GENE POOL INSTEAD OF THAT MIX OF GERMAN FRENCH .......GET BACK UNDER YOUR STAIRS ...YOUVE BEEN TOLD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FENS FEVER 147 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen WE RULED ONCE AND STILL DO IN THE RUGBY!!! THATS WHAT YOU NEED IN THE ENGLISH TEAM .........SOME SUPERIOR WELSH BLOOD IN THE GENE POOL INSTEAD OF THAT MIX OF GERMAN FRENCH .......GET BACK UNDER YOUR STAIRS ...YOUVE BEEN TOLD like i said oliver cromwell beat every one took over wales scotland ireland he was the man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Yes, it's true. Modern Welsh is what's left of the ancient Brythonic language that was spoken all over Great Britain. Outside of Wales, the last remaining pockets of it existed in Merseyside, Cornwall and the north east of Scotland. Ever wondered about the name Aberdeen? Aber is a Welsh word. William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen The surname Wallace means Welshman. oliver cromwell was the man Someone needs a history lesson! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen WE RULED ONCE AND STILL DO IN THE RUGBY!!! THATS WHAT YOU NEED IN THE ENGLISH TEAM .........SOME SUPERIOR WELSH BLOOD IN THE GENE POOL INSTEAD OF THAT MIX OF GERMAN FRENCH .......GET BACK UNDER YOUR STAIRS ...YOUVE BEEN TOLD Erm...I'm a Jock :icon_redface: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FENS FEVER 147 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Yes, it's true. Modern Welsh is what's left of the ancient Brythonic language that was spoken all over Great Britain. Outside of Wales, the last remaining pockets of it existed in Merseyside, Cornwall and the north east of Scotland. Ever wondered about the name Aberdeen? Aber is a Welsh word. William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen The surname Wallace means Welshman. oliver cromwell was the man Someone needs a history lesson! didnt oliver cromwell batter william wallace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NID 0 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen WE RULED ONCE AND STILL DO IN THE RUGBY!!! THATS WHAT YOU NEED IN THE ENGLISH TEAM .........SOME SUPERIOR WELSH BLOOD IN THE GENE POOL INSTEAD OF THAT MIX OF GERMAN FRENCH .......GET BACK UNDER YOUR STAIRS ...YOUVE BEEN TOLD like i said oliver cromwell beat every one took over wales scotland ireland he was the man. Aye you's English are good at that,thats why yous are one of the most hated nations on this earth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen WE RULED ONCE AND STILL DO IN THE RUGBY!!! THATS WHAT YOU NEED IN THE ENGLISH TEAM .........SOME SUPERIOR WELSH BLOOD IN THE GENE POOL INSTEAD OF THAT MIX OF GERMAN FRENCH .......GET BACK UNDER YOUR STAIRS ...YOUVE BEEN TOLD like i said oliver cromwell beat every one took over wales scotland ireland he was the man. Aye you's English are good at that,thats why yous are one of the most hated nations on this earth. :clapper: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ratmogit 16 Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 William Wallace was reputed to be of Welsh stock....theres still evidence of Welsh influences in Scottish culture....such as the Bhoy's and the phrase "I'm going for a leek" came from a saying when everyone ate them but could only get them from the market. Other more sinister Welsh practices involving sheep seem to be more prevelent in the Scotish borders and the North of England.....although there is a tribe of SS's in Aberdeen WE RULED ONCE AND STILL DO IN THE RUGBY!!! THATS WHAT YOU NEED IN THE ENGLISH TEAM .........SOME SUPERIOR WELSH BLOOD IN THE GENE POOL INSTEAD OF THAT MIX OF GERMAN FRENCH .......GET BACK UNDER YOUR STAIRS ...YOUVE BEEN TOLD like i said oliver cromwell beat every one took over wales scotland ireland he was the man. Aye you's English are good at that,thats why yous are one of the most hated nations on this earth. a good point...............how many of us celts when going abroad get tarred with the same brush? from personal experience forieners change for the better when you tell them your welsh. i think it has alot to do with the football hooligans and chavs. i know theres good and bad where ever you go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 like i said oliver cromwell beat every one took over wales scotland ireland he was the man. Oliver Cromwell was the leader of the Parliamentarians in the English Civil war. I think you may be referring to Edward Longshanks. If so, yes, he did conquer Wales, with an army half of which was made up up Welshmen who didn't like the current ruler, Llywelyn ap Gruffydd. Over 9000 of his 15,500 men were Welsh. His campaigns against the Welsh almost broke him, and it was this which ultimately led to his failure to truly conquer our friends in the north. (Matter of debate, especially if Foxgun Tom reads this..! ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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